As physical penetration testers, it's important to have that discussion with clients to help them understand what makes the most sense to include in physical security and social engineering assessments. Just like any other assessment type, there is often confusion with what's needed, verses what is realistic for their budget, deadlines, etc. This talk helps clients to understand the different physical assessment types, what's involved, what to ask for, as well as what things may or may not be necessary for your environment. Through this, we're hoping to take some of the guesswork out of your planning and budget requests to help you get the most out of your next physical and social engineering assessment.